So I sent it back and kept my Minitaur. Close. Moog lovers might kill me, but i love my minitaur more than my little phatty. Ever since seeing Ghostland Observatory I have had an awesome amount of respect for the Voyager (every hair on my body shook at one point). Users with CV setups, traditional MIDI rigs and/or computer-based systems will all find ways to include the Sub Phatty in their workflow. If you want the most Moog for the money go for the Sub37, because it comes close to the Voyager and has some nice aces up it’s sleeve, which the Voyager misses. Both oscillators have variable waveshapes for added character. Trying all three is just not an option. Lots of low end, growl and warmth needed. I’m just not that person. I am partial to simply saying: Ah, go for the Sub 37; look at all of those modulation sources/destinations, and the feedback, and the arp/sequencer, and the duophony, and aftertouch, and etc. Not the new stuff. It’s the synth I would recommend to anyone as a starter synth, and I have no plans to get rid of mine. Moog Music’s engineers have crafted the Sub Phatty’s oscillators to perform with extreme accuracy and require almost no warm-up time. (I have to say that Elektronauts constantly impresses me with the goodwill and helpfulness of its forum members.). He said that Moog listened to it’s Phatty users and the Sub37 would be the answer. I am a fair keys player, so the idea of a keybed is appealing, but not absolutely necessary. The Moog Sub Phatty Analog Synthesizer is quite the unique instrument. Now it was time to create some sounds. While the Minitaur is great, I’d still get the Sub Phatty. I have the A4, Pro 2 and have this week purchased a Sub 37 and to be honest it has already become my favourite, it sounds imense, its logical in use, looks good and a great build quality. I think it has a modern character and it needs to be explored by more people without that freaking multidrive function cranked up all the time. Thanks again for the input. answer: it's not minimoog or taurus, gents. If it is also leads you might be after the miniatur can just go up to c4. I guess its the size and convenience of the knobs all in one place. But for bass in my experience the more complex the waveform gets the more pressure it looses (not just on the moog). Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. On a thread a while back I read that for some hardware related reasoning that the Minitaur actually has a deeper fatter bass than the voyager (if true, Wow). with most i agree but there is slight overlap.. we had a moog rep Amos confirm the oscillator core is in fact minitaur's. etc… I get it; it’s the high end model that does everything. The Slim and Little are discontinued, but you might get a good price for them - remember that the Little also has 37 keys. All of this is subjective beyond the point that a spectral/oscilloscope analysis of Moog vs. Novation oscillators would likely show some differences; what we make of those differences is up to us. The black panel, orange lights, and wood looks great to me, but I’ll take function (and cost) over form any day. I would have bougth a Minitaur alltready if all parameters had buttons or knobs. Both Minitaur and Sub Phatty are great choices… I’ve seen some Sub Phatty go for 695 a few days ago (Sweetwater), and I have to say that for that money, you simply can’t get anything better. Click here to login, The ability to reply to and create new discussions, Access to members-only giveaways & competitions, Interact with VIP industry experts in our guest Q&As, Access to members-only sub forum discussions, Get INSTANT ACCESS to the world's best private pro audio, Promote your eBay auctions and Reverb.com listings for free. Moog Slim Phatty vs Minitaur. It is in details, but there’s something magical about the oscillators and filter that has been lost in this new generation. It really was appreciated. The Moog Sub Phatty is a very enjoyable synth. I would suggest to HEAR what YOU can do with the Sub Phatty and then let us know what your thoughts are. I put the synth into 'panel active' mode so that the sound reflected the positions of the knobs and switches, and started to experiment. AFAIK Moog has also optimized the filter for bass sounds, but I could be wrong. When people talk a lot about Moog, they tend to talk about the “classic Moog ladder filter,” and, indeed, the filter does sound great and the resonance is perhaps the most predictable–wild when you want it to be wild, harmonic when you want it to be harmonic–of any synth I own. I am mostly interested in a Moog for basses, but if I had the additional range of the Sub 37 or Sub Phatty, I’m sure I would use it to some extent. is minitaur really up 2 the challenge? Minitaur–great, pure sound; CV mapping; not as flexible, but what it does it does really, really well. The drums are samples and the intro-rhodes are VST. The Moog Sub Phatty was launched at NAMM 2013 and drew a lot of interest as any new Moog synth is likely to. Sub 37 Tribute Edition. Please check a video from SYNTHWAY using the Sub Phatty for Minitaur-like sounds…, I never tried the Sub 37 but I saw a comparison of the triangle - waves on Youtube ( between the DOM 1 and the SUB 37 ) - and it claerly showed that the pure triangle of the SUB is softer ( rounded at the top ). The Moog Sub Phatty is a two-oscillator analog synthesizer that's true to the style of vintage Moog synths -- with all the bells and whistles you'd expect from a Moog, and a few modern twists. If you’re looking for the flat-out best sounding synth, and your budget is under $1000, then look no further. of course sub phatty then adds crapload of new things and features compared to minitaur. I would go for the Minitaur…all the bass you can eat, and with the Mother-32 you will have a lot of sonic possibilities. The Sub Phatty combines an old-school aesthetic and sound with modern design. own or owned several moogs. only miss pwm and the cv is a little wonky, needed some adjustments on the a4 side to correctly track the octaves in tune, dunno if they fixed it by now but the a4 is quite flexible in that regard. The even more complex moogs like voya and modular make you lose focus altogether imo, with them I just dial in sounds all evening. I never found a clip that compares waves of the different Moogs . I am debating between the Minitaur, the Sub Phatty, and the Sub 37. I have a Sub37, Slim Phatty, and Minitaur. The basic architecture will be familiar to most, two VCO's plus a Square sub Osc, single LFO, two envelopes (ADSR with hold and delay) and the mixer … It is housed in a sturdy case containing a 25-note, velocity-sensitive keyboard, with a front panel that delivers plenty of hands-on controls for designing, saving, and retrieving your own sounds. Your other synths can cover the ground the Minitaur can’t (note range limit, pwm) and you already have a great keyboard with the AK. Have minibrute and microbrute but use them for basic analog sounds. In the spirit of continuous improvement, we are transitioning production of the award-winning Sub Phatty analog synthesizer to make way for a new standard: the Subsequent 25.Implementing upgraded sonic modifications and functional improvements, the new Subsequent 25 becomes the standard production model moving forward. The Moog Sub Phatty is a perfect example, calibrated for generated club and dance music, but versatile enough for any application. already ? I think if you tried out the Sub Phatty, you would come back and say, "Glad I got ALL THREE!". Do you really think you need it? The Sub Phatty takes everything that is vintage Moog, and packs it into a sound design machine that is both fresh and aggressive. Being totally honest, sonically, I would always choose the Slim/Little. Pass filter also, which is something none of the Phattys have! The recent wave of Moog reissues bring classic analog sounds with modern ease of use. Archived. As the Sub Phatty was released as a replacement for their Little Phatty synth it's no surprise that it retains a lot of design features while also mixing in some elements of the Moog Minitaur. Slim/Little, have a great interface - the knobs available have a distinct led feedback and you always know where you are live. You need an account to post a reply. The obvious differences are a shorter, 25-key keyboard and a dramatic reduction in physical controls to better match the Sub Phatty layout. Who knows? Perhaps it'll give some impression of the sound. Studio Electronics, Macbeth, etc. But I’m not sure I need everything. ( I have no expériences with MOOG ) . The Sub Phatty also has that 25 key range, and while enough, it doesn’t seem exactly the right amount. And the ladder filter is patented. That said, someone would be smart to grab a bunch of them while they’re on sale and rig up a cheap polysynth (five voices for eight hundred bucks). But if you are after a real Moog-Bass sound, get it. I own two Phatties, the Little and Sub. I’m also waiting to see if Moog comes out with a non-tribute Sub 37 for a little lower price somewhere down the line. With marketing showing wizened synthesists getting excited about the new circuitry, there clearly is something going on here. Moog oscillators sound so harmonically rich and present to me. +1 Minitaur. … It combines the classic, hands-on control of vintage Moog instruments with a dynamic and ultra-gritty new sound engine. As you do have a lot of analog synths already you need to know what exactly it is you are after. Minitaur is plenty Moog. So if you want complex sounds the miniature is a bit limited but if you want bass it is really powerful. Moog Sub Phatty: Sound and Effects Moog Sub Phatty is anchored by two free-running VCOs that have pitch ranges of 2', 4', 8', and 16'. Despite the much simpler front panel, more features have been retained than you might think. Is the bass that much stronger? It is capable of doing almost everything the Sub 37 does (besides extra LFO and duophony) and is way cheaper… it also sounds the same as a Sub 37. The Minitaur on the other hand has zero keys, which is good or bad, depending if you want to use the combo standalone or not (A4 + Moog). A lot of lesser used functions remain as what Moog call 'hidden parameters', accessed via a Shift mode. 11. When buying a Moog … Compared to these 2 the others seemed like boxes, toys, computers. It’s great–and the filter sounds fantastic–but I’m not great with a soldering iron, and I wanted more control than it offered. Here's my first go at trying to recreate patches with the Minitaur, just for kicks, and for that 80ies feeling. OVERVIEW AND FEATURES The Sub Phatty is a monophonic analog synthesizer, very much in the tradition of other classic Moog synthesizers. Create a username and password below and an account will be created and your post entered. As someone who loves to model things with Lego bricks I thought I'd make this miniature model since the Sub Phatty is such a beauty (and it sounds amazing). The Sub Phatty is good enough and the Sub 37 just adds a little bit more to it, while expanding the user interface. The Sub Phatty® is a highly aggressive sound design and performance analog synthesizer. To give you an idea of the types of sounds that the Sub Phatty has to offer it comes with 16 presets that range … The ultimate moog bass is the MiniMoog. Don’t go for the Sub37 unless you want to make it central and learn it proper. I wouldn't simplify your opinion of what this thing is just yet. A 37 key would be way better. I went ahead and got a Minitaur from Perfect Circuit during their Black Friday sale. One thing that you should be afraid is the current quality control for the Sub line - I see a lot of people with problems that didn’t exist before, mainly with erratic potentiometers. etc. Feb 2, 2019 - Explore Martin Brossman's board "Moog Minitaur", followed by 932 people on Pinterest. Sub 37–does everything, nearly infinite possibilities, it would seem, but I can’t help but think it just sounds muddy in all of the demos I’ve seen/heard. Things start to change when you start thinking about your money. It's got 25 keys, 31 knobs, and 13 switches, giving the player hands-on access to … I checked out the Sub37 lately and was really impressed, the whole mix is really awesome, almost a piece of art. Thanks for all responses and I understand the ridiculousness of trying to compare a synth that isn't even out yet. Jun 9, 2015 - Explore Randy Baratz's board "Moog Synthesizer" on Pinterest. I think it’s time I get a proper Moog to complement my other synths (quick reference: on the synth side, I’m currently running an AK, Waldorf Rocket, Bass Station II, and a Meeblip Anode). It sounds like Minitaur is likely the way to go for now. The keys on that thing are amazing, especially for the price. The Mono Lancet also has some magic, but as a live keyboard player all my modules tend to collect dust, might sell them (some MFB as well) and some more stuff, get Sub37 and Prophet 6 and be happy (at least until next Namm. I am looking for the ultimate Moog Sub bass. However, the Sub 25 may be better seen as a successor to the Sub Phatty. Electronic Music Instruments and Electronic Music Production, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23321450/Ge...rgeHayduke.mp3, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23321450/Ge...rgeHayduke.wav, Old Nabble - Minitaur/Taurus synth engine. Maybe it’s just people overdoing it with the drive/feedback? Launched in 1971, Moog Inc’s Minimoog kickstarted a revolution in music technology that saw the synthesizer shrunk down from a room-filling modular science project to an accessible, portable and, most importantly, playable instrument aimed at musicians rather than physicists. Input appreciated: Moog--Minitaur, or Sub Phatty, or Sub 37. I don’t own the Minitaur, but I’d like to and I’ll probably get one soon. So... if you want the Moog sound, then you only get it in a Moog. Perhaps it sparks a Moog passion in me and in a couple of years (of buying Moog products), I can help someone else with a similar question. The filter behaves differently with the overload, oscillator wave shaping works a thousand times better and tonality is little bit more pleasant for me. same with gear. I myself would not pay around $1k for "new Multi Drive" but that's me. Already have an account? I can’t comment on the other moogs but I got a miniatur to have a proper bass in addition to my analog four. Well, with Winter NAMM right around the corner, might want to wait and see what pops up. I’ve also heard, but have not experienced, that the Mono Lancet has a very Moogish sound; to me, the resonance is a little too unruly, but I have definitely considered it vs. the Minitaur in the past. Both Minitaur and Sub Phatty … Again, any input from users of these synths would be helpful and appreciated. That said, I do think the Sub 37 and Prophet 6 are going to appeal for more than one season. But Moog decided to limit the range of notes in the upper realm. It has various features and capabilities that you would not otherwise get on another synthesizer, and that makes it special.Moog has always been known to pay attention to detail on the little things that matter, but especially the sound quality which in fact is no “little thing” at all. Now that the Sub Phatty has been leaked and it's very reasonably priced and on paper is a much better value than the Minitaur I'm all confused about what I should do. I think there is nothing after midi-note 73. When you buy products through links across our site, we may earn an affiliate commission. Posted by 6 years ago. The patent has expired quite a while ago and there are manufacturers using the same ladder filter in their products. It's a beautiful instrument, as we've come to expect from Moog, and it will probably last most users a lifetime if treated right. See more ideas about Moog synthesizer, Synthesizer, Moog. The only reason I did not own an original Mini is I opted for an Odyssey at the time. Comparing three of Moog's most popular synths. Too bad the UI on the early phatties is so limited. From the screenshots Moog supplied, however, it's sure to resemble the one bundled with the Moog Minitaur in terms of design and integration. I’m going to look at this like a keyboardist. Slim and Little Phatty. The only things holding it back so far are the lack of keys ( 25 keys seem to limit a possible melody sometimes) and the hidden functions, for instance LFO reset would have been great to have as a button as this one matters a lot. Price is a consideration for me. Moog make a big deal over the Sub Phatty's short warm-up period, and it's clearly superior to many other synths. Hey guys I want to know your opinion on this. Personally, I liked the smooth character of the LP more, but there might be some potential for a "Taurus like" bass there... Been thinking about this myself since my Voyager is on the Moog factory bench getting fixed, so I'm trying to use the Minitaur in its place for now. layering minitaur with the sub 37, getting the Sub all squelchy or coarse and the Mtr doing sub will get you the lead / bass solo sound of your dreams, setting the pitchbend amountof the Sub high and the Mtr to something less or off in the down direction gets … If you start focusing more on the sound, I have a divergent thinking… to me, the Sub sound (including Sub 37), isn’t as good as the older Phatty sound you’ll find on. The envelopes on the Minitaur are also incredibly snappy and fast; I think the combination of all of that allows for a different sound than what I can achieve with the BSII. I didn’t compare to the others but most things I read online said the bass is the strongest on the minitaur. You get along with some persons and with some you don´t, with some you even fall in love. I used to teach writing, so in case this is too long (or poorly the edited) the TL:DR of it is: perhaps not much; “psychoacoustics”; rich oscillators, snappy all day envelopes. The Sub37 can be warm, smooth, classical, but also modern, aggressive, and crunchy. Moog Bass! WHY YOU SHOULD BUY THE MOOG SUB PHATTY. Not that the Sub sounds bad, after all, I have one. The Moog Subsequent 25 appears to be a compact, less expensive option than the popular Subsequent 37. Another option would be the werkstatt with cv expension board, “the moog mother of the poor”. It has 25 keys, 31 knobs and 13 switches that connect you directly to the analog heart of this powerful instrument. and the filter is of course the same old transistor ladder circuit, tho those dont all sound the same either (esp the new generation) - sub phattys filter when in 4pole position sounds pretty much like minitaur's to my ears. the psychoacoustics-approach is interesting. See more ideas about moog, synthesizer, moog synthesizer. If you can live with the interfaces, which provide definitely not a one knob per function design, you will get almost the same sounds as with the Sub37. The Sub Phatty is also the first analog synthesizer to feature Moog’s transformative Multidrive circuit. the a4 can do nice bass when using the second filter for it but lot of presets make use of the second filter for sound shaping instead of thickening. But for me, the reason I wanted a Moog had to do with the combination of the oscillators and that filter. layering with a4 works perfect so in most cases you don’t hear that two sounds are playing, get a rich low end from the miniatur and an extremely wide range of sounds to layer above from the a4 (or the ak in your case). you're about three months early. Also, the minitaur editor works a treat. The minitaur has a very solid low end. There’s the middleground that says the Sub Phatty is a compromise, except I can’t really get over the fact that it doesn’t have the CV mapping of its lesser or greater siblings: it really is what you see is what you get (I am aware of the “under the hood” features). No two page garbage. I also got a Moog Sub25 (the successor to the Sub Phatty) and although I loved it, having it in my home studio was like owning a lifted F-350 in manhattan. ), is the Minitaur a big improvement over the BSII? I find my self using it even more often than I thought to record a quick bassline or … For relatively little money you get a real moog with a real moog sound. If money is even tighter, you can get almost all the way there with a MIDI keyboard controller and the Moog Minitaur, but trust us, once you fall for the Sub Phatty, you’ll be hooked. Minitaur for £340, and Slim Phatty for £400. It is worth a mention that the VCOs can come up … (Then I saw a Sub Phatty for a ridiculous price, but oh well, I have no remorse; the Minitaur is what I was leaning toward anyhow.). (Although, it seems fairly clear right now that the Werkstatt was a prototype for the Mother 32, at least to me.) I have a BSII too, and some other stuff (Prophet 08, Korg Monopoly, Octave Cat, Mono Lancet …). I’ve had the Werkstatt; it made me want a proper Moog. I make hip-hop beats and ambient doodlings, primarily. Sub Phatty–perhaps a middle ground that I’m underestimating? thanks for the long answer, detailed infos help much more than a short “sounds good”. the minitaur is a very nice elektron companion for starters. Before someone suggests I just try all three, I will say that I am located in West Virginia (for those of you not familiar with American geography, please insert your own nation/region’s most remote and economically underdeveloped locale). The Phatties are great sounding instruments too … without the tonal limitation of the Minitaur. Moog Sub 37 / Little Phatty ATA Road Case ATA Road Case for Moog Little Phatty, with 9mm Laminated Plywood Sides, Metal Reinforcement, Recessed Handles, Edge-mounted Casters, and Cable Storage They all sound good to me, but there is some silky magic about the Slim/Little phatties that I have not found on the Sub or 37. The Minitaur is a true Moog. One of the big attractions at the 2014 NAMM show was the Moog Sub 37 Tribute. Thanks for all of the input, everyone. I reckon minitaur and sub 37 would be knobby heaven together. Somewhere down the line, I will grab a Mother 32 as well, but I would prefer to get a Moog in this calendar year, so I can hold off on that part. The new Multi Drive function got a massive and really enthusiastic round of applause from us when we heard it at the factory last October. Minitaur limitations might lead you into getting another Moog soon, but it really sounds lovely in the bass department. On the other end of things, I think: oh, the Moog Minitaur; it’s all the Moog you need: it sounds great and the CV mapping make it a lot more versatile than it may initially appear. That said, with the classic multimode filter set to 24/db lowpass, I can achieve some admirably Minimoog-ish sounds with the BSII. I got the Moog Sub Phatty about a week ago (my first analog synthesizer!). Maybe this explains the muddyer sound ?? I think the Minitaur and the Mother is a pretty sweet combo. Reviewing it in May of that year, I commented that “it seems obvious that the Minitaur would sing as a lead synth too”, and the chaps at Moog must have agreed, because the next stage was the Sub Phatty, which took the character of the Minitaur and transplanted it into a diminutive keyboard synth. The Sub Phatty is good enough and the Sub 37 just adds a little bit more to it, while expanding the user interface. Being rational, if you find a good price for the Sub, go for it! (It also sounds muddy to my ears, as though the oscillators are not as sharp as the Minitaur’s.). Thanks for all the feedback so far! If it had four octaves, I would never look at another keyboard again. I see my sub phatty more as a performance synth and I rather play it than slave it to my a4. The 32 has high Especially if you’re heading for a Mother-32. The digital controls over several parameters makes it a more capable machine, with repeatable envelopes, LFO keytracking and a few other cool treats such as phase resetting for oscillators, just like you get from the Minitaur. Of note I have owned a SP and wasn't overly impressed with SubBass and have a SE-1X which covers similar territory to the Voyager on paper. If you can make an argument for why one might partner better with a Mother–again, CV mapping seems a plus here–please let me know. My own quick breakdown is: I can get both for about similar prices used in the UK. Moog Slim Phatty vs Minitaur. Well I did say "so far" . The Minitaur is a one trick monster, as said before, but it does its trick in the best way possible. It looks like you have already plenty of synths. Keep in mind, my Minitaur just arrived the other day, so I may not have the fullest report here. Cheers! Also, the Minitaur and Mother-32 look great side by side! I remember Amos from Moog to tell that the sound engine of the Sub-Phatty and the Sub37 is quite similar if not identical. (Just a quick note: The Analog Keys does have a very nice keyboard, but the keyboard I end up using the most often–with some quick left-hand transposing–is my Bass Station 2. El Moog Sub Phatty es un sintetizador analógico monofónico, con muy buena estabilidad en sus 2 osciladores de forma de onda variable, un filtro ladder con bastante carácter, 25 teclas, posibilidad de guardar hasta 16 presets y una serie de controles que ponen sus funcionalidades a … For bass sounds, there’s no doubt - Minitaur is king (clearly heard even from videos). Things start to change when you start thinking about your money. The Sub37 commands your attention and time. In terms of features, there are only a few things that the Minitaur has that the BSII doesn’t (Note Sync being the most peculiar and useful), and in fact, the BSII is incredibly featured, much more so than the Minitaur, and sounds great. It’s easy enough to find sweet spots even if you don’t dig deep, but unless you plan to, it’s a waste of your time, money and most importantly mental space. Prophet 6 as well for polyphony. All the pieces in the model are 100% Lego, everything is connected, took me a good 20 hours for the whole thing. if you already have a SE1X, I really don,t see what you,d gain from a, Sub Phatty is not a rehashed, improved, or replacement. Just try to forget a moment about the overall sound and focus on the interface. great sounds and can be very Minimoog on a lot of settings. I still hope for a " Maxitauer " to come out some day ( = all controls external ) . This monophonic, dual oscillator synth includes a sub oscillator for a distinct bass boost. I agree, it´s always the combination of small things, sound, features, and for me especially the UI, that make an instrument good. I think the Subphatty could be the answer. Moog Sub Phatty 25-Key Analog Synthesizer Say hello to the Sub Phatty, the grittiest Moog Synth ever. The sound is warm, deep, punchy, very flexible. The arp, the sequencer, the looping ADSRs and the easy and direct modulation assessment of almost every modulation source via the front panel makes it a great studio and live performance instrument. It’s so defined, you’ll feel straight at home with it. A lot of good responses and insight into this debate. One thing I disliked on the design is that a couple of interesting functions/parameters can only be addressed via computer interface and software editor. Thats all I have to say about it really, cheers Glyn. The Sub line is the more versatile and would grant you a lot of crazy sonic capabilities - I wouldn’t even consider paying more for the extras in the Sub 37 though. I would have bougth a Minitaur alltready if all parameters had buttons or knobs, I still hope for a " Maxitauer " to come out some day ( = all controls external ) . This synth has two VCOs, one VCF, one VCA, and two envelope generators as well as one LFO. Is the Sub Phatty a rehashed LP or SP with Sub Osc's and the Multidrive or does it have the AC Coupling between the VCA and VCF like the Taur's do? Versatility-wise, I think that the Sub line is a step above the others. I have owned 2 Moogs, a Moog Source and a Voyager and I have used them both extensively for bass. What does the Minitaur have that the BSII (or the other) doesnt? Unfortunately, when we had a look at the Sub Phatty, the editor was still in development. Sounds great, has an amazing presence and looks great on the table too. 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